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Poster: tigerbolt Date: Dec 22, 2006 10:50am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: mk ultra

take a peekhttp://michael-robinett.com/declass/c000.htm

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Poster: mudcatbluez Date: Dec 22, 2006 4:23pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: mk ultra

I remember reading about the MK-ULTRA stuff a while back. Mailer even fictionalizes a chunk of it in "Harlot's Ghost."
If memory serves, Dr. Olson threw himself out a window while in full-wig. Nice of Big Brother, eh?

The part I know is this: Kesey essentially hired himself out as a lab rat for a variety of drugs, including LSD, while working at, I believe, the psychiatric unit of an Oregon Veteran's Hospital. He of course went on to adapt the environ of the ward to "...Cuckoo's Nest." Later on he independently dosed on mescaline, spontaneously envisioned "Chief" and wrote the opening sequence to "...Cuckoo's Nest."

Question: The time frame's somewhat later than MK-ULTRA, but didn't the CIA also subsidize the experiments Kesey participated in?

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Poster: SDH2O Date: Dec 22, 2006 11:53am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: mk ultra

For those unfamiliar, here's a quick overview:

Project MKULTRA (also known as MK-ULTRA) was the code name for a CIA mind-control research program that began in the 1950s. There is much published evidence that the project involved not only the use of drugs to manipulate persons, but also the use of electronic signals to alter brain functioning. It was first brought to wide public attention by the U.S. Congress (in the form of the Church Committee) and a presidential commission (known as the Rockefeller Commission) (see Revelation below) and also to the U.S. Senate.

On the Senate floor in 1977, Senator Ted Kennedy said:

"The Deputy Director of the CIA revealed that over 30 universities and institutions were involved in an 'extensive testing and experimentation' program which included covert drug tests on unwitting citizens 'at all social levels, high and low, native Americans and foreign.' Several of these tests involved the administration of LSD to 'unwitting subjects in social situations.' At least one death, that of Dr. Olson, resulted from these activities. The Agency itself acknowledged that these tests made little scientific sense. The agents doing the monitoring were not qualified scientific observers."

This post was modified by SomeDarkHollow on 2006-12-22 19:53:11

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Poster: bluedevil Date: Dec 22, 2006 11:46am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: mk ultra

I like the part where they state that halting the testing of unwitting US citizens wouldn't bring the program to a halt as they would continue to do the same on foreigners, who could be monitored by those countries' agents. Nice example of international cooperation.

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Poster: SDH2O Date: Dec 22, 2006 11:48am
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: mk ultra

So-So movie, but Jacob's Ladder highlights this nicely. If nothing else, it is very creepy.

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Poster: cosmicharlie Date: Dec 22, 2006 1:34pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: mk ultra

Jacob's Ladder is a favorite of mine. Total Hollywood fiction though. Whatever Ted Kennedy said, must be true!

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Poster: SDH2O Date: Dec 22, 2006 3:01pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: mk ultra

I think he said it after his fifth martini, so you have to believe him.

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Poster: orchiddoctor Date: Dec 22, 2006 1:15pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: mk ultra

This explains everything. Thank you.